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Infinite Series (Aaron Venture) thread

Version 1 of IS will surely be far from perfect but when we see the difference between the first and the last versions of IW and IB there is something to be enthusiastic about. Especially since we know that Aaron does not drop his products!

Regarding SM strings, they are also far from perfect (notably the cello solo, the tone in the low register, the staccato and the fact that they have difficulty giving the feeling of a very large orchestra). For the rest they are very good in my opinion. For example, the agility of violins is unparalleled for example.
 
mussnig said:
Usually I agree with you but I am afraid not in that particular point. One's ability to judge the tone of a product should not be determined by their ability to create music. Obviously, opinions are usually subjective anyways (unless, of course, one points out something like phasing etc. which you can measure). But in general you also don't require food critics to be good chefs, movie critics to be good filmmakers, ...

Sure, we don't know how "good" @Dmitry's ears are and if the general audience here would approve of their taste. Also, judging IS without any demos is obviously ridiculous. But it shoudln't matter how good someone is at making music to respect their opinion or taste.
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Aye, agreed here. Also, Dmitry did say that he was hoping he was proved wrong. I don't think he was crapping on it personally, merely saying that he has reservations. Reservations that I also have to some extent.

But you know, I also have "The Belief" so I can put the reservations to the side very easily.
 
Dmitry said:
I heard AM and SM strings - sounds poor, and the IR technology doesn't get that quality like real recording strings in hall. However i like IB, but strings is too hard. I will be glad if this is not so.
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Yep you heard AM and SM strings but not IS? I don't like AM and SM strings but we're talking Aaron Venture... the developer who did this

Listen to the strings (not even close to being a finished product) and tell me if they have any resemblance to AM or SM strings.
 
Toecutter said:
Yep you heard AM and SM strings but not IS? I don't like AM and SM strings but we're talking Aaron Venture... the developer who did this

Listen to the strings (not even close to being a finished product) and tell me if they have any resemblance to AM or SM strings.
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Wait, what? Those are IS you think?
 
Toecutter said:
Yep you heard AM and SM strings but not IS? I don't like AM and SM strings but we're talking Aaron Venture... the developer who did this

Listen to the strings (not even close to being a finished product) and tell me if they have any resemblance to AM or SM strings.
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Hold up, wait a minute. I've heard this demo many times but it didn't have strings in it I'm sure? Soooo....
 
mussnig said:
Usually I agree with you but I am afraid not in that particular point. One's ability to judge the tone of a product should not be determined by their ability to create music. Obviously, opinions are usually subjective anyways (unless, of course, one points out something like phasing etc. which you can measure). But in general you also don't require food critics to be good chefs, movie critics to be good filmmakers, ...

Sure, we don't know how "good" @Dmitry's ears are and if the general audience here would approve of their taste. Also, judging IS without any demos is obviously ridiculous. But it shoudln't matter how good someone is at making music to respect their opinion or taste.
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I get your point but you may not have understood me correctly. Or let me rephrase: I may not have formulated that clearly.

My claim is not that you have to be a chef to be able to talk about food, dishes and your own taste. I totally agree with you.

My point is: in the case that someone I have never heard of before - who MAY even be a chef - declares out of the blue “this restaurant called IS that is about to open in a couple of months serves tasteless food, because I have eaten in two totally different restaurants” I register a disconnect —> my question immediately becomes “ok, who is this person and is it remotely possible his or her opinion matters, even though he or she cannot possibly have tried the food in restaurant IS yet”.

Now, in THAT specific case, it would maybe matter whether or not the opinion was expressed by a well known chef. I’d still ask myself how on earth that chef would be able to have an opinion, but the comment would definitely register with me, and maybe I would ask more questions....

In this case it MAY be a chef, but I am not aware it is. So now.... it is nothing more than just another opinion on the internet. Of course I myself am not a chef, nor able to create anything remotely sparkling, beautiful and orchestral, and I have posted lots of opinions on food and on sample libraries... howcome? Well, as far as I am concerned, everybody (chefs, and us ordinary folk who just eat) is entitled to an opinion. But it does help if an opinion is actually based on something resembling actual experience. Which in this case, arguably, is not possible.

Well then, that reduces the opinion to somewhat of a pointless one in my book.
 
I remember in the past he used other libraries to complement IB and IW in some demos, I don't remembere where. I think there is the same, he will not use the library until is out.
 
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