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Frank1985

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Hey guys. I'm looking to do something with all the tracks I have created over the years and someone suggested exclusive sync libraries. Are these genre specific, i.e are they known for specialising in a certain style of music; if so which libraries are recommended for rock, including rock/heavy metal hybrid productions that contain orchestral elements? I also do a bit of ambient new agey type stuff.

What advice would you give to steer someone like me in the right direction, so I don't waste time on the wrong things early on?
 
Keep your publishing at all cost. Avoid music libraries.
A music library is how you get placements, and how you earn money. DO NOT avoid music libraries.

And if you are not doing direct licensing deals (almost nonexistent nowadays), I'd love to hear how a composer is supposed to keep their publishing, when there will, 99% of the time, be a middle man, known as the publisher.
 
Read Dan Graham's articles about library music on Sound on Sound! If you are new to library music it's an essential read. It will answer many of your questions:

That's a good article.

if so which libraries are recommended for rock, including rock/heavy metal hybrid productions that contain orchestral elements?

You have to do some research, and email/call the librarires you think will work for you. Send them your best work, and follow up in a few weeks if they do not get back to you. Use google for this.
 
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That's not going to make the op any money, especially with the new rules.
Neither are music libraries. They will just take your tracks, with no fee at all, and put them up on streaming sites themselves. If you do that yourself, you at least don’t have to share the royalties, and keep your masters. Your master is 5 times + worth your writers share.
 
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Is the op not looking to get placements in TV shows? That's the initial impression I got. He did say "sync" libraries.
The post said he was looking to “do something with his music”.. and also:

What advice would you give to steer someone like me in the right direction, so I don't waste time on the wrong things early on?
The best you can do is to make first release yourself, so you retain the right to decide what to do with your tracks, and obtain your own ISCW, UPC and ISRC codes for your stuff. There is a reason why so many do this, this is the foundation of doing business.

You will rarely get much from having tracks on TV shows in this age of streaming, that is literally a penny business, even with a ton of placements, so keep your rights and release to streaming yourself.

Signing your stuff off to music libraries is absolutely waisting your time on the wrong things.
 
The post said he was looking to “do something with his music”.. and also:

The best you can do is to make first release yourself, so you retain the right to decide what to do with your tracks, and obtain your own ISCW, UPC and ISRC codes for your stuff. There is a reason why so many do this, this is the foundation of doing business.

You will rarely get much from having tracks on TV shows in this age of streaming, that is literally a penny business, even with a ton of placements, so keep your rights and release to streaming yourself.

Signing your stuff off to music libraries is absolutely waisting your time on the wrong things.
I've done both - self release and library music - and have made, and continue to make, far more money from library music. It's not even close.

Sure, I give up my publishing, but it's a fair tradeoff because the library handles all the nitty gritty details that I have no interest in, and they do the work to get my music placed, not only on TV, but in movies, video games, trailers, commercials, podcasts, social media, and music streaming services. And they do this in the US and internationally. Most of these placements are very lucrative, way beyond just pennies.

That said, there are libraries out there that are non-exclusive. They will still take publishing for any placements they secure, but don't claim the copyright, so you can still do what you want with your tracks. In my experience, these libraries tend to either be very selective (Crucial Music) or highly specialized (trailers), so the rate of placement is not as high as with a good sync library.

There are a lot of libraries cropping up nowadays that engage in predatory business practices, like charging composers to get their music in the library, or taking your writers royalties, or engaging in "gratis" licensing deals that have no sync fees. So do your research and stick to libraries that have been around and have well-established reputations.

No matter what, NEVER give away your writers royalties. If anyone demands this, run the other way! Also, avoid royalty-free libraries. It's easy to get signed onto one, but your music will get diluted among their many thousands of tracks, and even when you get a placement, you won't earn much.

Hooking up with a reputable library that gets placements and has your back can result in a very lucrative and mutually beneficial relationship.
 
A small addendum to my previous post...

When I write library tracks, I'm fully aware this is their sole purpose and accept that I'm giving up publishing and entering into an exclusive arrangement. However, it sounds like the OP is dealing with a backlog of legacy music that wasn't created with sync licensing in mind, so there may be an emotional or other type of attachment to the music, which is understandable. If this is the case, giving up publishing and copyrights, even if it would potentially result in sync revenue, may not be so attractive.

So @Frank1985 , if your primary goal is to simply put your music to work for you so it earns money, then sync libraries are a good option. But if you have sentimental attachments to your tracks and/or think you may want to leverage them in additional ways in the future, you may either want to self-publish or only consider non-exclusive libraries, which may make the prospects of earning money more challenging, but you retain full rights to your music.

Something to consider with library music is if a sync library likes your tracks, they'll likely want you to make more, increasing your future revenue potential and providing you with a nice side-gig (or main gig if you're really successful) for as long as you want.

Good luck!
 
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Obviously for some people, putting your music in a "library" is a waste of time. For others, it isn't. In the library world, good distribution is paramount. Once you have that, then, as long as your music has something that others don't, you can make money from it. Most of the people who tell you that library is a waste of time are speaking only from their personal perspective. They haven't been successful. That doesn't mean you won't be successful. Don't close down options without doing your research first.

FWIW, most exclusive libraries get you to write to specific briefs, and are not really interested in dealing with your back catalogue. Not all. Just most, in my experience.
 
I would not say signing your music off to music libraries is "wasting your time". Plenty of great libraries secure top placements for many composers. But, don't expect to just put out a handful of tracks and see a six figure income. Some tracks might get great placements and be top earners, many might not get placed at all. Those who are successful at it tend to contribute to libraries regularly and have 100's to thousands of tracks available. AND, you should write music that is purposefully written for sync. usually tracks that get used the most have clear starts and stops, transitions, good development and variation in sections. I find that Intro A B A Outro is an effective form, with clear cadences ending each of those sections. This gives an editor 5 distinct end points, and easy flexibility to stitch and rearrange the track with stems to fit their scene. How easy your track is to work with can be a huge plus in getting placements.

That being said, I will say that it is uncommon that you will send over a backlog of tracks that a label would just release unless it is already structured in a way that works for production music. Often youll send music over, theyll decide if you are up to the caliber they are looking for, and as mentioned above, you will probably be asked to contribute to a specific album or brief they have in the future.

You should be aware of the deal you are getting and it is worth doing some research into how royalties are paid out and the terms surrounding it such as publishing, writers share, mechanicals, etc.

You will not find a single label that is going to give you 100% of Publishing and Writers. There is nothing in it for the label in such a deal. A more common deal you will see label take publishing, and you retain writers. But every deal is different. Ultimately you want to weigh what the value is that you are getting for whatever you are giving up. I personally think the 50/50 deal of giving up publishing, retaining writers is fair so long as the label is worthwhile. Extreme Music, APM, Universal Production Music, Warner Production Music are a few bigger names that are trustworthy quality labels that will get you good placements.

The idea of retaining 100% of your writers and publishing makes sense if you are already a well established name capable of drawing the attention of TV producers directly, but I don't know many who are in such a position. Even then, most big name composers and writers I know are signed to a label or have an agent that they give up a share of their earnings to. But those agents and labels get those composers the biggest gigs in town, so they are inherently providing something of value.

Long story short - unless you are Taylor Swift, there isn't anything wrong with giving up some of your publishing, so long as you are not giving up all of your publishing AND writers, and are getting something of value in return.
 
The post said he was looking to “do something with his music”.. and also:

The best you can do is to make first release yourself, so you retain the right to decide what to do with your tracks, and obtain your own ISCW, UPC and ISRC codes for your stuff. There is a reason why so many do this, this is the foundation of doing business.

You will rarely get much from having tracks on TV shows in this age of streaming, that is literally a penny business, even with a ton of placements, so keep your rights and release to streaming yourself.

Signing your stuff off to music libraries is absolutely waisting your time on the wrong things.
The title of this thread is

Sync lib recommendations​


Does that not tell us he is looking for a library that does sync licensing?
 
C'mon it can't be that controversial to suggest that sync libraries is a big waste of time, how many of you make a living from that income? Most people pursuing sync music are making next to nothing, so it is surely a fair general assessment. Ok, I'll qualify my position on this a little more..

Yes, IF (1) you make music in a quality on par with what's on streaming from the best labels, IF (2) your music is sync'able & IF (3) you have found the right publisher (of which there are quite few, and most of them have already been named in this thread), you might get in the lineups. That's a lot of if's - sync is a 1% game where you'll have to beat 99% of the competition, and it's getting harder day by day.

That's why the most honest general advice is, chasing sync is a big waste of time. Those opportunities are overhyped, oversold, oversaturated and for most, out of reach. Most end up spending decades chasing pennies, wasting their time. Sure some of you 1%'ers are commenting here, good on you, but you should know you're not the average player. @storyteller got it right in his first comment.

And if you really are so good that you can fulfill those criteria above, and you put the same work into artist shaped music, it is by far more likely that you will make more money building a fanbase by releasing your music to streaming. You can still get sync'd as supervisors will chase you down when they hear something they need, and then you have all your rights ready to go for one-stops.

Logic is hard, isn't it.
 
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C'mon it can't be that controversial to suggest that sync libraries is a big waste of time, how many of you make a living from that income?
Who said anything about making a living? OP has some music lying around that he wants to leverage to make some money. Doesn't sound like a vocational aspiration. But if you want to go down the path of earning a living from music, please read on...

Yes, IF (1) you make music in a quality on par with what's on streaming from the best labels, IF (2) your music is sync'able & IF (3) you have found the right publisher (of which there are quite few, and most of them have already been named in this thread), you might get in the lineups. That's a lot of if's - sync is a 1% game where you'll have to beat 99% of the competition, and it's getting harder day by day.

That's why the most honest general advice is, chasing sync is a big waste of time. Those opportunities are overhyped, oversold, oversaturated and for most, out of reach. Most end up spending decades chasing pennies, wasting their time.
All professional music is competitive. There's no easy path to the pot of gold for anyone.

60,000 new songs are uploaded to Spotify every day - that's nearly 2 million new songs every month that are added to the pool! Talk about oversaturated. As an independent artist, it's almost impossible to get your music to stand out and gain traction amid the constant flood of new music.

By comparison, the bigger libraries I write for publish maybe 1500-2000 new tracks a month, at most. And with the highly specialized libraries, it's significantly less. Not only that, the music directors at the bigger libraries actively curate, promote, and recommend new music to their clients, so your music has a good chance of gaining even more visibility.

In terms of earnings, Spotify pays an average .003 - .005 play. So even at the top end, a song needs 10,000 streams to earn $50. Just one sync placement on most TV shows will earn at least that much, plus royalties on the back end. And if a track is good, it'll likely get placed multiple times on multiple shows. Considering 80% of Spotify artists get fewer than 50 plays a month... the math speaks for itself.

Sure some of you 1%'ers are commenting here, good on you, but you should know you're not the average player.
I'm nothing special. There are far more talented and successful composers and producers out there than me. But with library music, the barrier to entry is actually not that high, as some might have you believe. Yes, your music needs to meet a certain standard, but after that, the key to building a successful music library career is all about being prolific, consistent, and quick.

I think it's much more challenging and speculative to be an independent artist, trying to make music you hope will catch fire with a significant number of random people. By comparison, having success with library music is far more predictable and reliable.

And if you really are so good that you can fulfill those criteria above, and you put the same work into artist shaped music, it is by far more likely that you will make more money building a fanbase by releasing your music to streaming. You can still get sync'd as supervisors will chase you down when they hear something they need, and then you have all your rights ready to go for one-stops.
I've already mentioned how difficult it is to earn meaningful income from streaming, but beyond that, do you realize how much effort it takes to build a meaningful fanbase as an independent artist? You can't just put your tracks on Spotify, YouTube, Apple Music, etc. and expect overnight success and piles of cash flowing in.

The time and energy you need to put in to promote your music and build an audience can be the equivalent of a full time job, and the worst part is, all those tasks have nothing to do with actually making music. But with library music, all you ever focus on is making more music - that's your only job.

My wife has been a professional singer/producer/bandleader for most of her life. She's toured internationally, released 13 CDs, has even landed some cuts on TV and movies, built a significant following, and is currently profiled in an hour-long interview on NPR. But what does she spend 80% of her time doing? She spends most of her days promoting her music on social media, trying to book gigs, and performing other non-musical tasks to nurture her career. And yet, with all that going for her, she still doesn't earn a consistent living from her music. She needs to teach and occasionally takes part-time jobs, plus she has me to help support our family.

It doesn't sound like OP wants to sign up for all that. He just has some old tracks he wants to pitch to libraries, so providing some guidance on getting in the library music game is hardly irresponsible or illogical.

At this point, I've been writing library music for 3 years. When I publish an album or submit tracks for a brief, that's the end of my involvement, I simply continue making more music, which is all I care about. And in these last 3 years, I've earned more money from sync placements and royalties than my wife has from streaming revenue and CD sales, and the more music I produce, the more my earnings increase. The only area where my wife earns more than me is performing live shows, but even that's not always true, because there are significant costs associated with playing gigs and/or touring.

I'm not even going to mention my futile attempts at earning meaningful income as an independent artist. Library music has been the saving grace that's enabling me to earn back all the money I lost releasing 2 CDs and promoting and fronting an actively gigging band.

Yes, there are independent artists who can earn a handsome living with their music, but all the data indicates they are most certainly the real 1%-ers, and you can bet they spend a significant part of their lives supporting their careers with tasks that don't actually involve making music.

Library music is not for everyone, but neither is a full-time career as an independent artist. Both paths are frought with pitfalls and challenges, and offer no guarantees. "...spending decades chasing pennies" as you put it, can apply to either. But at least with library music, if you align with the right libraries and consistently produce music, you can cultivate a reasonably stable revenue stream doing nothing but making music, which sounds pretty good to me.
 
Nobody can argue with your personal anecdotes, but in the grand scheme of things, still a small fraction of people gets worth while money in return from pursuing syncs. That is not really speculation. We don't know much about the OP, the quality of the music ect, but having an old back catalog not designed for sync isn't exactly the best starting point, as others have also pointed out. So, it's much more likely than not, a big waste of time.

That's not your view, fine. No problem for me, I don't have any stakes at risk, but in my country it is common, sound advice to be very careful about music libraries. I have been doing this for over a decade too, and I think we need to display a little more reservation on behalf of newbies. Sync libraries are not a free ride, and they are not going to save ur a$$
 
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C'mon it can't be that controversial to suggest that sync libraries is a big waste of time, how many of you make a living from that income? Most people pursuing sync music are making next to nothing, so it is surely a fair general assessment. Ok, I'll qualify my position on this a little more..

Yes, IF (1) you make music in a quality on par with what's on streaming from the best labels, IF (2) your music is sync'able & IF (3) you have found the right publisher (of which there are quite few, and most of them have already been named in this thread), you might get in the lineups. That's a lot of if's - sync is a 1% game where you'll have to beat 99% of the competition, and it's getting harder day by day.

That's why the most honest general advice is, chasing sync is a big waste of time. Those opportunities are overhyped, oversold, oversaturated and for most, out of reach. Most end up spending decades chasing pennies, wasting their time. Sure some of you 1%'ers are commenting here, good on you, but you should know you're not the average player. @storyteller got it right in his first comment.

And if you really are so good that you can fulfill those criteria above, and you put the same work into artist shaped music, it is by far more likely that you will make more money building a fanbase by releasing your music to streaming. You can still get sync'd as supervisors will chase you down when they hear something they need, and then you have all your rights ready to go for one-stops.

Logic is hard, isn't it.
You definitely make great points. The amount of $$ I earn from libraries these days is enough to pay for a couple of nice vacations for my wife and I every year. There is no way in hell I could imagine trying to do this for an honest, living in this day and age, I really pity these composers starting fresh with this whole thing with rose coloured glasses.
 
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