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I'm having a hard time supporting the "Occupy Wall Street" protests...

Liberal Billionaire John Corzine was removed as Governor by the Prosecutor who actually jailed politicians for a living. He turned his state around and who knows what the wealthy Liberal Corzine would have done to save his failing ponzi scheme if he still had the power of New Jersey tax payer mponey behind him.
But he really does care about the little people, protector of the poor and homeless.

Now he'll lose his Jets, and SUV's but don't expect to see him on a train or an electric car, those are for the peasants that send their kids to public schools, a place Corzines children never have stepped into before.....

God Bless The USA............ 0oD
 
no h in jon. :P

but the question today is this.

is the greek prime minister mad? because what are they going to do if they veto the eurozone decision in a referendum?

if i was germany or france today i would suggest that they may be seriously considering leaving the eurozone.
 
You know I can handle the extra taxes, higher gas and food, it's just part of life that reminds us it's a feast or famine world, not the fairy tales the elites claim wait for us in the utopia they dream of.
But last night was the saddest Halloween I have ever seen and I never miss one,
When children start becoming affected from the horse shit these rich pricks in DC shovel out I get angry.
Entire neighborhoods are dark now. When I was a kid we filled 3 or 4 pillow cases full of food and then my mom and dad would check the booty jusy in case some freakbag stuck us with a turd covered in chocolate or something.
But we got a half of pillowcase of candy and had to drive to certain neighrboods just looking for porchlights.
I blame these elite game players in DC with their speeches of higher rapes and murders if we dont pass the Jobs Bill, and the usual racism as a way to divide up people into groups for targetting.
My son and his friends know nothing of racism and only hear it from these " leaders ".
I hold them responsible for every single failure and economic trouble we are seeing.'

THe housing boom exists only in DC right now as thousands move there for work and feasting. I plan on hitting every town hall meeting from here on out and showing my total lack of respect for these bums.

When my child and children in the neighborhood are all sad faced that's where I draw the line, and it starts right in DC...

They have fleeced us for enough tax payer money and sold out our people to appease global banks for campaign money.....I am on a mission now, remove Harry Reid and the rest of the wealthy Liberals who are the " protectors " of the people...
 
The official corporate tax rate is 35 percent, but that would be tough to tell by looking at the financial statements of some of the nation's largest companies.

A new study out Thursday found that 280 of the largest publicly traded U.S. companies faced federal income tax bills of 18.5 percent of their profits for the past three years, or a little more than half of the official rate. Furthermore, 30 of the companies faced an average annual tax bill of less than zero between 2008 and 2010, and 78 companies posted at least one no-tax year during that stretch, according to the report from the left-leaning Citizens for Tax Justice.


Full article here:

https://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/11/03/corporate_tax_study_some_on_fortune_500_paid_no_taxes.html (https://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/11/ ... taxes.html)
 
Yepp, and who is getting the best deal of all....? Jeff Immelt who sits in on Obamas Cabinet meetings, and is even the head of the Jobs Council which is suppose to help create jobs in the USA....... :mrgreen:
But while Obamas Bro made 14.8 Billion in profit last year and didn't pay a single penny in taxes, he even moved his entire XRay Medical Division to CHina and helped them create 25,000 jobs... :lol:
Make no mistake it's not the Corporations fault, they pay Obama and other Liberals big money for the laws they purchase. You can't blame them.

The DNC use to hide the fact they danced for Wall Street dollars and sold legislation for corpporations, but now they don;t even try to hide it.
Just look at who sits in on Obamas Cabinet meetings....
Each one of them paid lots of money, and gets lots of laws for their campaign contributions........
 
midphase @ Thu Nov 03 said:
The official corporate tax rate is 35 percent, but that would be tough to tell by looking at the financial statements of some of the nation's largest companies.

A new study out Thursday found that 280 of the largest publicly traded U.S. companies faced federal income tax bills of 18.5 percent of their profits for the past three years, or a little more than half of the official rate. Furthermore, 30 of the companies faced an average annual tax bill of less than zero between 2008 and 2010, and 78 companies posted at least one no-tax year during that stretch, according to the report from the left-leaning Citizens for Tax Justice.


Full article here:

https://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/11/03/corporate_tax_study_some_on_fortune_500_paid_no_taxes.html (https://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/11/ ... taxes.html)
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Yes, but wouldn't you rather spend your time trying to get taxes out of wealthy individuals rather than corporations? After all, it's politically much more difficult and the benefits are much smaller. Sheesh...

See, I told you people would eventually wake up... :)

rgames
 
No, I'd rather do both-as I've said over and over and over.

"A few billion here, a few billion there, and after a while you're talking about real money".
 
A few Billion here and there is nothing to a DC Lawyer, lobbyist or politician.
They prefer big chunks where the siphening process is less noticable...

And regardless of the silly debt clock, I don't believe we owe that much money. Nobody is too worried about it as they flock to buy billions of US Treasury Bonds.

IMHO we were bamboozled by the real powers who used TARP and Stimulus as a way to consolidate their power.
 
The problem with taxing corporate profits is that the corporation then raises it's prices so that the consumer ends up paying the tax.

I think taxing the people that make the money makes more sense.
Just raise the highest tax brackets.

There used to be a 90% tax on income above a certain level.
While I don't advocate a 90% tax, they could certainly raise the current rate of 33% (I thing that;s what it is now).

They could raise it to 40%. That wouldn't be 40% of the total, but 40% of the amount over a certain ceiling.
 
The bloggers and media have finally got everyone talking about taxes, they've succeeded.
Why go after the 350 billion in waste and duplicitive programs already discovered by Obamas committee.....?
Why use the returned profits and original TARP funds that have been returned in the neighborhoo0d of 500+ Billion.....??

Well because our " leaders " are committed to division, you see it in this thread, in the various cities where the Bill Ayers types and Union leaders are promoting violence. This is the confusion and divisiveness needed to keep people fighting amongst themselves so the status quo will remain.

Congradulations.
 
The problem with taxing corporate profits is that the corporation then raises it's prices so that the consumer ends up paying the tax.
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Not if there aren't any consumers.

But the real issue is that the government bailed out the banks that broke the country unconditionally, but we haven't bailed out the country. We should be investing in infrastructure and stopping the foreclosures.

And we would be if there weren't a Republican party ruining our country.
 
Ah don't worry Nick, those you worship made millions in kickbacks and Green investments. And the Conservatives won't ruin anything because ClubFed has it's shit together. They decide the rules of the game and when it starts and stops, not some silly script readers.

The returned stimulus money is something I have been tracking for a while with no luck what so ever. But the Inspector General has frozen these assets I believe through injunctions, since there are over 100 Criminal investigations currently underway. It's also one of the reasons that Corzine has lost 600 million dollars and can't seem to find it.

It has been frozen through an injunction. That's what happens when the big boys call in the chips. The music stopped and he was the last one standing. Just more proof that ClubFed wants the GOP to win in 2012 so the shell game and finger pointing can continue.

But go ahead and blame the GOP, there are millions like you who blame the DNC, and it's that level of thinking that allows the shell game to continue.

I think by 2016 you might start seeing how DC really works. Sure you and I want to vote for those who promise things to benefit us or our neighbors, and they are humane and kind, etc. But we get broken promises, and its the same game every decade.

These false parties make promises but they cannot be kept without the tacit authorization of their employers at ClubFed.
That's the way it has been for decades, and since these global banking giants have gobbled up thousands of smaller credit unions and banks and consolidated their power with the Stimulus money ( shovel ready ) they are stronger than ever.

The real decision makers are choppered in from Andrews Air Force Base from around the Globe and these silly script readers are just for show.
What's really sad is they are terrible actors and actresses, and so many believe the spewed rhetoric.....

Just imagine Cain with Gingrich as the VP in 2012........
What a media circus and show that'll be.
Maybe he'll sing at the State Of The Union speeches, and have Pizzas delivered for the Press Corp....... /\~O
 
there are no consumers. there is no demand out there. anywhere. china cant sell to the chinese and the japanese have massive problems with their currency plus the fact that japanese and chinese save rather than spend. in the west its not a question of saving but more a question of getting the personal debts like mortgages down which in effect is saving. its certainly not spending because in order to spend freely as was the case but 4 or 5 years ago most of the spending was done on the back of borrowing. catch 22.

when any of us talk about politicians just go back to the greek prime minister for a second and what can only be described as an aberration a couple days ago. its not just our politicians but politicians everywhere. just pray that these eurozone people get their act together and stop any contagion in italy and spain. because believe me if that were to happen no one anywhere will be doing anything.
 
alongside all of the discussion, it would be lovely if you would consider dropping your banks:

https://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/90064103?Americans%20to%20take%20a%20stand%20against%20big%20banks%20on%20November%205%2C%20Bank%20Transfer%20Day%202011 (https://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles ... Day%202011)
 
Nick Batzdorf @ Thu Nov 03 said:
The problem with taxing corporate profits is that the corporation then raises it's prices so that the consumer ends up paying the tax.
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Not if there aren't any consumers.

But the real issue is that the government bailed out the banks that broke the country unconditionally, but we haven't bailed out the country. We should be investing in infrastructure and stopping the foreclosures.

And we would be if there weren't a Republican party ruining our country.
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But, if there are no customers there are also no profits to tax, or incomes to tax either.

Tax the incomes made through the corporation.
Tax the incomes of workers, CEO, Shareholders, bond holders.
Tax the rich at a higher rate than other people and at a rate that is higher than it currently is.

I'm no fan of corporations.
 
We must bail out Greece just to keep this major babe as head of the Socialist movement. I might even join if there's trim like this.
But in the USA it's usually the Rachel Maddow butchy haired broads with big buts.
This gal must be saved....

Why can;t we have politicians like this. I love being lied to by fine women, she could spend trillions and have it all disappear into the bottomless pit of public education, and I would let her have more...
 
chimuelo @ Fri Nov 04 said:
We must bail out Greece just to keep this major babe as head of the Socialist movement. I might even join if there's trim like this.
But in the USA it's usually the Rachel Maddow butchy haired broads with big buts.
This gal must be saved....

Why can;t we have politicians like this. I love being lied to by fine women, she could spend trillions and have it all disappear into the bottomless pit of public education, and I would let her have more...
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:lol:

yeah lets tax everything so that it just leaves the planet.

i know what you mean about some lady politicians. even had to deal with them in a former life. looking like a 350 pound sack of potatoes in a dress 30 milliseconds before getting hit by a steinway that just fell from a 15 story balcony. it can be grim.
 
A refreshing point of view by Bill Moyers here.
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