Cinematic Studio Strings

[Bluemount Score]

It was meant to be a joke, but either its outdated or not famous enough :D (maybe both)

 

[constaneum]

WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN

It's the new revolution in legato that happened. Look around you. Doesn't everything look so different now?

Hahahhaha. I've not been following lots of things lately, especially libraries like metropolis ask series and etc. Ahhahah

 

[constaneum]

Guess I better go look back. Previously was like what ? Performance legato ? I wonder how powerful can powerful legato be compared to performance legato.

 

[ProfoundSilence]

Guess I better go look back. Previously was like what ? Performance legato ? I wonder how powerful can powerful legato be compared to performance legato.

I'd rather power legato, all jokes aside XD

I honestly ended up using the regular legato patches most of the time(although I would probably do the same with Met Ark 4 too, but that's because POWER LEGATO isn't really a replacement for regular legato)

I do think it's funny though, they never really advertised power legato as some sort of game changer or next gen, people just saw the name of the articulation and ran with it poor OT.

 

[jbuhler]

I do think it's funny though, they never really advertised power legato as some sort of game changer or next gen, people just saw the name of the articulation and ran with it poor OT.

That’s what happens when all you release about a library is its articulation list. If they’d released several demos and a walkthrough when they announced the library I doubt POWER LEGATO would have turned into the running gag it did.

 

[oxo]

but keep in mind, a power legato is only the real thing if it is a deep sampling power legato with perfect imperfection.

 

[Casiquire]

Hahahhaha. I've not been following lots of things lately, especially libraries like metropolis ask series and etc. Ahhahah

No worries, I was behind the curve too. I thought someone just made up "power legato" and everyone ran with it. To this day I still barely get what "Ark" is trying to do lmao.

 

[constaneum]

ahhaha. so far, i think spitfire audio did a really great job on performance legato. I wonder whether power legato would be something similar? Just that the naming is different.

 

[ProfoundSilence]

ahhaha. so far, i think spitfire audio did a really great job on performance legato. I wonder whether power legato would be something similar? Just that the naming is different.

no, its nothing like performance legato.

its not even like any legato, it's just a bit on the wild side, exaggerated/bumpy transitions.

performance legato is just "less lazy" programming, more akin to what MOST companies use.

berlin strings legato patches have variable sustain patches(which effects the note attack) based on velocity, variable transitions based on time between notes, and NV-VB(sometimes 2 vibratos)

So berlin strings regular legato is already "performance legato"

but ark 4 POWER LEGATO is not a replacement for a legato patch(which those instruments have included regular legato patches for... legato)

but yes, having ark 4 for a little now, it's definitely an identity crisis - although I'm still glad I have it, I picked it up to re-inforce my other OT libraries, not a one stop for POWER LEGATO

I still wish I could get CSS legato scripting on BS... CSS is still THE king of rebowed legato

 

[ProfoundSilence]

If they’d released several demos and a walkthrough when they announced the library I doubt POWER LEGATO would have turned into the running gag it did.

Idk why we didn't start calling all non "advanced legato", "primitive legato", after CSS...

Yeah, I like lass with it's primitive legato

 

[constaneum]

i actually think spitfire audio's performance legato really works great based on the walkthrough.

 

[hypnotize]

Hello colleagues! I need to make the sound of the strings under the vintage 70-s. I have CSS, and don’t want to use other libraries. Tried Big Fish Audio - Vintage Strings and didn’t like it, there is no good legato and other shortcomings.
What advise in processing CSS? Saturation? Light overdrive?

 

[Batrawi]

Hello colleagues! I need to make the sound of the strings under the vintage 70-s. I have CSS, and don’t want to use other libraries. Tried Big Fish Audio - Vintage Strings and didn’t like it, there is no good legato and other shortcomings.
What advise in processing CSS? Saturation? Light overdrive?

hmmm...probably use the close mics only and apply a bit of Hi-pass to remove some of the low/bassy frequencies

 

[Loïc D]

I’d try Tape saturation and both ends EQing to reduce the bandwidth.
Maybe izotope Vinyl (free) could be helpful.
70’s strings sound is also a lot about the writing/arrangement.

 

[Igor Sena]

In case anyone is interested here is a way to streamline working with CSS and the latency of the diferent types of legato:
Selected a group of notes that you want to have quantised. Go to midi menu, then select the logical editor. Then change the values as you see in my snapshot. Then Apply. then save as a preset and give it a name you can recognize (still in the logical editor window). Once you save it as a preset, it will show in on the key commands, inside the folder process logical preset, then you select and assign a key command to it. So in the future when you selected notes on the key editor, you just need to press the key command you assigned and the selected notes will move back 333ms. Repeat the process for the different legato speeds and assign a different key command for each.This speeds up a lot the workflow with CSS, as you can now quantize and then quickly move the notes where they need to be in order to be on time. Hope this helps.

Hello, there

Do you happen to know of any plug-in who does this same thing for usage in other DAW?

Best regards.

 

[midiman]

Hello, there

Do you happen to know of any plug-in who does this same thing for usage in other DAW?

Best regards.

Hello Igor. I am sorry, I don't know of a plug in that does this. But I believe there must be a similar thing you could do in other DAWs. Maybe someone else in the forum knows...

 

[Igor Sena]

Hello Igor. I am sorry, I don't know of a plug in that does this. But I believe there must be a similar think you could do in other DAW. Maybe someone else in the forum knows...

Hi =)

I have asked in my DAW´s respective forum but its been weeks and no answer yet. Can´t find much on the web, besides voxengo delay, etc but those don´t do the job.

Thank you very much anyway. Best regards.

 

[Ha'Vi]

Hello, there

Do you happen to know of any plug-in who does this same thing for usage in other DAW?

Best regards.

Have you tried Ihnoc's Kontakt script?

https://vi-control.net/community/th...-features-1-5-now-supports-keyswitches.70174/

Took a little while for me to get it set up correctly, but now I can just quantize everything and it handles all of the legato offset for me whilst keeping all my midi looking nice and tidy. So long as your DAW lets you put in a -300ms negative track offset, then it should work.

 

[fiction]

Do you guys ever max cc1 with CSS? I've been using it for everything lately and I'm always in the 5-60 range. I can't really explain why... Don't know if it's my gain staging or maybe I'm not too fond of the timbre at higher dynamics.

 

[Sid Francis]

I am working in cubase and even made a midi transform script that cuts the upper 20% of the dynamic and uses the whole modwheel range only for values of 1-95. And I still rarely go far over the mid position... I noticed that the biggest differences between what I hear in romantic films and on the other hand in my string libs is, that the strings in these films hardly play over mp to maintain a silky sound. I prefer having less dynamic range but a nicer tone without ever being tempted "to go to eleven"