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I've been away so maybe I missed something but why wasn't this posted in the commercial forum?
 
Meh. 4 1/2 hours later it's not even at 25%. Still crawling along at 22Mbps. I paused and ran a separate download test and got 768Mbps, so it's not the fault of the line. Is anyone else seeing better speeds?

I don't know whether they need to recode the app for multithreaded downloads (like Continuata) or just get a better hosting provider, but this is pathetic given the huge size of the libraries!
 
Virtuoso said:
Meh. 4 1/2 hours later it's not even at 25%. Still crawling along at 22Mbps. I paused and ran a separate download test and got 768Mbps, so it's not the fault of the line. Is anyone else seeing better speeds?

I don't know whether they need to recode the app for multithreaded downloads (like Continuata) or just get a better hosting provider, but this is pathetic given the huge size of the libraries!
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Could depend on your location! I believe Spitfire uses Amazon servers to distribute libraries, so you're not downloading directly from Spitfire. You'd be downloading from a distributed server much closer to your geographical location, and that specific one you're connected to could be the bottleneck.

EDITED: Yup, Spitfire uses Amazon's Cloudfront. Maybe an issue with your local Cloudfront connection/server?
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fahl5 said:
Sorry I dont want to disturb the party, but what exactly for should I need another Ah/Ooh/Oh/MMM choir? I haven't heard yet anthing that outstanding

On the other Hand I wonder how different a that much more powerful like Hollywood Choir was received here and evoked here so much negative excitement.
Sorry but for me there are already great Choirs with and without any Wording available. (VSL has at least different consonants in addition to Ah and Uh and is excellent in its sound).
In short, I simply do not understand what Spitfires Choir-swells shall have that much outstanding.
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Bet the others you and I have got aren’t recorded in Air Lyndhurst though. Throw this with your HZS and SSO and you’ve got the closest anyone’s ever going to have to the real sounding deal...
 
Geoff Grace said:
I don't either.

Word Builder impresses me as an innovation; but after struggling with it for 15 cues back when EWQLSC was released, I ultimately decided that—for me, at least—it was more trouble than it was worth. I realize the feature has improved a bit in more recent libraries; but I don't believe it's become a breeze to use, even now.

Of course, YMMV.

Best,

Geoff
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I’m so glad they steered away from the word builder headache. Would have been a nightmare for them and us. Quality over Quantity is way more important in my book.
 
Paul Cardon said:
Could depend on your location! I believe Spitfire uses Amazon servers to distribute libraries, so you're not downloading directly from Spitfire. You'd be downloading from a distributed server much closer to your geographical location, and that specific one you're connected to could be the bottleneck.

EDITED: Yup, Spitfire uses Amazon's Cloudfront. Maybe an issue with your local Cloudfront connection/server?
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I'm in Seattle - most of my clients are big tech companies. I do video production, so my internet traffic averages 2-3TB a month, much of which is to/from companies also using AWS, but the only developer I have these glacial speeds with is Spitfire. I have no idea why. With a decent hosting provider this library should take around 30 mins to download, but it's actually looking like it's going to be >20 hours.
 
ka00 said:
My guess is that Spitfire has changed their engagement strategy vis-a-vis vi-control after experiencing what they saw as unfair and ill-informed criticism of some recent releases and marketing techniques (announcements of announcements, flashing banners, etc.).

Happened around the same time Paul started his informative YouTube channel and Spitfire upped their output of educational videos. Again, my guess is that this is part of an effort to shift the community discussion to youtube as well as to help people get more out of the libraries and clear up some FUD.

Also, just guessing, but it reduces the temptation to try to defend your product from attack if there's no official thread that you are invested in and which feels like needs protecting. Not only does no one win in those back and forths, it has the effect of putting your critics on the same playing field as you, regardless of anyone's actual credentials.
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It certainly seems clear that Spitfire has decided to reduce—but not eliminate—its involvement here, while at the same time increasing its presence at YouTube.

Best,

Geoff
 
Geoff Grace said:
It certainly seems clear that Spitfire has decided to reduce—but not eliminate—its involvement here, while at the same time increasing its presence at YouTube.

Best,

Geoff
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IMHO, this would be a shame, as well as push me further toward paying more attention to alternate sources. This is a very active and open Forum, which provides a steady flow of worldwide opinions and perspectives. YT is terrific for what is does well, but loss of Spitfire Audio here seems a large, net loss for SF.

Agree … was quite surprised to see initial post not made by SFA on COMMERCIAL Announcements. :notworthy:
 
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Virtuoso said:
I'm in Seattle - most of my clients are big tech companies. I do video production, so my internet traffic averages 2-3TB a month, much of which is to/from companies also using AWS, but the only developer I have these glacial speeds with is Spitfire. I have no idea why. With a decent hosting provider this library should take around 30 mins to download, but it's actually looking like it's going to be >20 hours.
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So when you use AWS and Cloudfront, you do subscribe to bandwidth tiers, and it's possible that Spitfire subscribes to a lower tier as, honestly, they're not pushing super massive amounts of data all the time, and their bandwidth limit might be constrained due to this release.

I'm down in LA and I normally get great speeds, and evidenced by the screenshot above, I'm maxing out my 100Mb/s download speeds today, so again, I don't think it's Spitfire themselves, rather the Cloudfront CDN.
 
sostenuto said:
IMHO, this would be a shame, as well as push me further toward paying more attention to alternate sources. This is a very active and open Forum, which provides a steady flow of worldwide opinions and perspectives. YT is terrific for what is does well, but loss of Spitfire Audio here seems a large, net loss for SF.
Agree … was quite surprised to see initial post not made by SFA on COMMERCIAL Announcements. :notworthy:
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As Spitfire posted in this thread just earlier today, I wouldn't go as far as to describe the situation as a "loss of Spitfire Audio here;" but I share your sentiment, sostenuto, that it would be great if they would ramp up their involvement at VI Control again.

Best,

Geoff
 
Geoff Grace said:
It certainly seems clear that Spitfire has decided to reduce—but not eliminate—its involvement here, while at the same time increasing its presence at YouTube.

Best,

Geoff
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Well, I'm glad I checked in today and visited THIS forum!
What an exciting choir. Love the personality and emotion... different from the typical religious mumbo jumbo and typical stuff cluttering my drives. This was an instant buy for me after listening to/watching the stuff on SA's site. Just got my download notification and had to download a NEW version on SA's downloader for it to appear...

While I have acquired a ridiculous (and, in retrospect, foolish) amount of traditional orchestrals over the years I find myself gravitating to the Olafur's, Swarm, & Heavyocity's Forzo/Novo & OT's Time Macro & ARKs these days, being primarily a songwriter. It is a glorious moment to be a singer songwriter!

I'll be up all night at this rate but it's a great reason to pull an all nighter! Very excited.
 
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Virtuoso said:
Meh. 4 1/2 hours later it's not even at 25%. Still crawling along at 22Mbps. I paused and ran a separate download test and got 768Mbps, so it's not the fault of the line. Is anyone else seeing better speeds?

I don't know whether they need to recode the app for multithreaded downloads (like Continuata) or just get a better hosting provider, but this is pathetic given the huge size of the libraries!
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I'm seeing the same kind of speeds here in Portland. I've paused it and restarted, and seen it rise up to 50Mbps, but when I went back, it was back to 20-22ish. Ugh!!!
 
Geoff Grace said:
As Spitfire posted in this thread just earlier today, I wouldn't go as far as to describe the situation as a "loss of Spitfire Audio here;" but I share your sentiment, sostenuto, that it would be great if they would ramp up their involvement at VI Control again.

Best,

Geoff
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I agree. With one caveat...Post on release or when "real" info can be conveyed so we don't have 20 pages of speculation and wackamole mumbo jumbo before REAL discussions can begin! THIS got very old for me as time is precious these days. Mind you, I own nearly ALL Spitfire libraries but wading through a bunch of blather and speculation I did not enjoy although others might find it fun.

FWIW, I may have totally missed the intro of this had I not meandered into Sample Talk, which I seldom do these days.

Glad I stopped by! Will be having a blast tonight, inspired by this lovely new creation... a choir full of subtle emotion, which I absolutely ADORE! Should blend nice with OT's Time macro choir and their Metropolis Choirs... I think now I'm set!
 
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D Halgren said:
I'm seeing the same kind of speeds here in Portland. I've paused it and restarted, and seen it rise up to 50Mbps, but when I went back it was back to 20-22ish. Ugh!!!
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I'm in Coeur d'Alene Idaho on Spectrum and download speed is hovering between 44 and 51 Mbps here... Update: now down to 35 Mbps after a couple hours... only 33GBs downloaded so far...Oy!

TBH, I remember dial up so ain't gonna whine about it... just can't look forward to an all nighter of bliss as this rate...

maybe that china spy chip they hid in a lot of server boards is busy usurping Amazon's cloud at the moment... lot's of goodies stored there... :whistling:
 
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