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TAL-J-8 (Jupiter 8 emulation) - still being updated with features!

Anyone who tried the app and bought it (or tried it and was on the fence) - be sure to get the latest 1.19RC version with the enhanced SC (including Random!) and SC lock functions.

Using the SC panel REALLY brings more analog mojo to the sound. While not sounding like a different synth, it definitely sounds like a better synth. To me, anyway!

I'm now playing with the Default sound and am super impressed. I love it! The new Pan knobs in the SC aren't Random yet? Odd, but the rest are, and it's not hard to tweak those. It sounds so good. Heck, I'd bought it and was still on the fence, but now....

Going to spending some hours today I think on just this synth, learning it better. I'm impressed. I can definitely recommend this synth now, especially at the intro price.
 
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A side by side comparison between TAL J8 and Arturia Jup-8 V 4


I think there is something wrong with the audio of that video. I hear something like nasty aliasing on the high end on both synths which I don't think should be there.
 
1.2.6 is out with some supposed CPU optimizations. This guy's a madman with a relentless update schedule. I just wish it could update automatically.
Besides the continual lack of funds I’m actually trying to hold off buying he J-8 until the end of the introduction period so I get as close the finished product as possible.I don’t have the patience to update this 2 or 3 times a week,lol
Patrick listens to customer comments and applies tweaks, incorporates suggestions and updates products at a furious pace.
I already have TAL’s U-No-LX and Tal Sampler which are great,this will be a nice addition to the toolbox.
 
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.... and....

1.2.7 is out. I'd not mention it, except the RC (aka Release Candidate) tag has been removed, meaning it's "real" now. I suspect the furious pace of updates will begin to wane in the come month or so.

Please update if you haven't. Many, MANY things have been updated vs. when it was first available. See for youself:

CHANGE LOG​

  • Version 1.2.7
    • CPU optimisations.
    • Sound quality improvements.
    • Demo added (jupiter 8 vs tal-j-8)
  • Version 1.2.6
    • CPU optimisations.
    • Sound quality improvements.
  • Version 1.2.5
    • Possible crash introduced with 1.2.4 fixed.
    • VCO-1 sync option added.
  • Version 1.2.4
    • Sound enhancements (cross modulation, vco instability).
    • 127 additional factory presets. Please download the presets from the preset section if you have installed an older version of the plugin.
  • Version 1.2.2
    • VCO modulation does not affect VCO 2 when in LOW FREQUENCY mode fixed.
    • Improved cross modulation (bug fix).
    • Slightly lower CPU usage (still working on this).
  • Version 1.2.1
    • Noise oscillator in unison mode fixed.
    • Factory presets load with doubled LFO rate fixed.
    • SC dialog can also be closed when clicking on the SC button.
    • FX lock not working fixed.
    • MIDI lock not working fixed.
  • Version 1.2.0
    • VST3 id fixed on windows to be compatible with macOS.
      The plugin maybe not load anymore in existing sessions after the update. You can still download 1.1.9 for older projects. You can rename the TAL-J-8.vst3 folder of the older 1.1.9 plug-in in C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3 and run both plugins parallel as long you need it in older sessions.
      Windows < 1.2.0 compatible VST3 version:
      archive Windows 1.1.9 deprecated
  • Version 1.1.9
    • Synced delay always 120 Bpm fixed.
    • VCO Pitchwheel amount shows wrong value fixed.
    • Voice panorama parameter in the SC dialog added.
    • vst3 installed with installer not found by ableton 10 fixed.
  • Version 1.1.8
    • Bug Fixes.
  • Version 1.1.7
    • Improved SC dialog.
    • SC / Calibration lock.
    • Bug fixes.
  • Version 1.1.6
    • Added VCO 1 and VCO2 to the SC (Service Control) dialog. This gives you the option to detune them on a voice basis. We added a very small value per default to remove the unwanted static phase lock between the two VCO's. This way the phase slightly drifts per default.
    • Removed notch filter effect when syncing a saw with almost exact the same frequency.
  • Version 1.1.5
    • No sound with Audio Unit in Live fixed.
  • Version 1.1.4
    • Crash when importing microtuning *.tun files fixed.
  • Version 1.1.3
    • Registration / demo noise volume reduced.
    • Possible crash fixed when create or delete plugin.
  • Version 1.1.1
    • Portamento fix.
    • SC dialog when changing presets fixed.
 
"wasting screen real estate for useless overly skeumorphic UIs" is not really getting better on interface design ;)
Normally I'd agree with you but the Jupiter 8 is the only 'classic' analog synth I know well on account of a friend who owned one and it pleases me that a couple of decades later I can look at a very similar thing and have slightly more of a clue about what's going on.

Tune with everything done on the J-8:

 
"wasting screen real estate for useless overly skeumorphic UIs" is not really getting better on interface design ;)
There's a lot of facets and trade-offs to product design.

Yes, I'm admittedly biased because I'm a professional product designer (mostly mobile UX), not a professional musician.
 
Current version: 1.4.1.

I wish the product had a Check Updates feature that allowed for automatic updates.

For awhile, early on, I was wondering if I'd keep it around. But it's truly evolved and cemented it's place in my primary soft-synth plugin folder.

The more recent changes in the changelog:

  • Version 1.4.1 / 25.03.2021
    • Skips presets when using arrow buttons in some hosts fixed.
    • Minor bug fixes.
    • UI refresh.
  • Version 1.4.0
    • Possible crash fixed when hitting play in your DAW.
    • MIDI PANEL mode added (button on the top right). MIDI LEARN controls the actual panel when enabled.
    • VCA LFO modulation smoothed to be more like on the hardware.
    • Super small adjustment to the SAW waveform. It affects only very low played saws. You may not be able to hear any difference. Done just to be more accurate to the original hardware.
  • Version 1.3.9
    • Releasing sustain pedal also releases holding notes fixed.
  • Version 1.3.8
    • VST2 UI position problem when hide / show keyboard fixed.
    • Plugin does not send MIDI output fixed (useful for recording the arpeggiator output).
  • Version 1.3.7
    • Possible crash while switching presets or arpeggiator mode / range fixed.
    • Arpeggiator mode and range changes whithout pressing a note.
    • Toggle switch changes with mouse click improved.
  • Version 1.3.6
    • Arpeggiator backward compatibility fix (arp switch added).
    • Arpeggiator HOLD issues introduced with 1.3.5 fixed.
  • Version 1.3.5
    • Arpeggiator fix. The arpeggiator is now the same like on a real Jupiter 8. It will sound different in most cases if you already used the arpeggiator in an existing track. We also decided to implement only the real behaviour without any switches (we maybe add other modes in the future).
    • Scaling issues on windows fixed.
  • Version 1.3.3
    • Changing number of voices sometimes did not work. Fixed.
    • Linux VST3 plugin resizing bug fixed.
    • Improved Service Control (SC) UI.
  • Version 1.3.2
    • First note not playing at dead start in some hosts fixed.
    • Smoother changes when changing ADSR values.
  • Version 1.3.0
    • Long release times not possible fixed (introduced by 1.2.6)
  • Version 1.2.9
    • Long decay times not possible fixed (introduced by 1.2.6)
  • Version 1.2.8
    • Added some lag in the envelope attack with vco modulations.
    • Slightly calibrated cross mod. This is fix now. Sorry for the issues...
  • Version 1.2.7
    • CPU optimisations.
    • Sound quality improvements.
    • Demo added (jupiter 8 vs tal-j-8)
 
Current version: 1.4.1.

I wish the product had a Check Updates feature that allowed for automatic updates.

For awhile, early on, I was wondering if I'd keep it around. But it's truly evolved and cemented it's place in my primary soft-synth plugin folder.

The more recent changes in the changelog:

  • ersion 1.4.1 / 25.03.2021
    • Skips presets when using arrow buttons in some hosts fixed.
    • Minor bug fixes.
    • UI refresh.
  • Version 1.4.0
    • Possible crash fixed when hitting play in your DAW.
    • MIDI PANEL mode added (button on the top right). MIDI LEARN controls the actual panel when enabled.
    • VCA LFO modulation smoothed to be more like on the hardware.
    • Super small adjustment to the SAW waveform. It affects only very low played saws. You may not be able to hear any difference. Done just to be more accurate to the original hardware.
  • Version 1.3.9
    • Releasing sustain pedal also releases holding notes fixed.
  • Version 1.3.8
    • VST2 UI position problem when hide / show keyboard fixed.
    • Plugin does not send MIDI output fixed (useful for recording the arpeggiator output).
  • Version 1.3.7
    • Possible crash while switching presets or arpeggiator mode / range fixed.
    • Arpeggiator mode and range changes whithout pressing a note.
    • Toggle switch changes with mouse click improved.
  • Version 1.3.6
    • Arpeggiator backward compatibility fix (arp switch added).
    • Arpeggiator HOLD issues introduced with 1.3.5 fixed.
  • Version 1.3.5
    • Arpeggiator fix. The arpeggiator is now the same like on a real Jupiter 8. It will sound different in most cases if you already used the arpeggiator in an existing track. We also decided to implement only the real behaviour without any switches (we maybe add other modes in the future).
    • Scaling issues on windows fixed.
  • Version 1.3.3
    • Changing number of voices sometimes did not work. Fixed.
    • Linux VST3 plugin resizing bug fixed.
    • Improved Service Control (SC) UI.
  • Version 1.3.2
    • First note not playing at dead start in some hosts fixed.
    • Smoother changes when changing ADSR values.
  • Version 1.3.0
    • Long release times not possible fixed (introduced by 1.2.6)
  • Version 1.2.9
    • Long decay times not possible fixed (introduced by 1.2.6)
  • Version 1.2.8
    • Added some lag in the envelope attack with vco modulations.
    • Slightly calibrated cross mod. This is fix now. Sorry for the issues...
  • Version 1.2.7
    • CPU optimisations.
    • Sound quality improvements.
    • Demo added (jupiter 8 vs tal-j-8)
+1 agree
It’s almost pathological how often and how many updates the TAL synths receive.
 
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