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so I had few people reaching out and asking questions about the process. I realize that it might not be that convenient to go through the thread and read the wall of texts on how it works. So I made a quick overview video on how I'm using it right now. Excuse the accent. English is not my mother language. ;)
Hope it's gonna be useful to some.
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0:00 Quick Intro
0:37 The template
2:36 Adding a track preset
5:20 Creating a track preset
9:13 A workaround for route/send
10:10 The Media Bay
11:50 How to get just YOUR instrument in the browser
15:00 How to disable the previewer
17:32 Using the right pane
19:58 Quick words on the different templates approaches I used before.
 
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Sartorius

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Dear Grizzlymv! Thanks for the great video! I have a question. How do you manage to save the send slots in the track preset? When I save a preset track, this information is not saved.
 
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Dear Grizzlymv! Thanks for the great video! I have a question. How do you manage to save the send slots in the track preset? When I save a preset track, this information is not saved.
Just to clarify, it doesn't set any Sends you had configured in your track. It just automatically reconnect, in a disabled state, all sends from your project. To enable this, open the Cubase preferences. Under VST, you'll have a "Connect Sends Automatically for Each Newly Created Channel". Just ensure the checkbox is checked and voila. ;)

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I ran some tests to keep the send slots. If a track preset contains information in the first slot (for example, a reverb track), then when this preset is placed in a new project, the first existing track with an effect is substituted into the first send slot of the track being created. Is that correct? And this only works if the "Connect Sends Automatically for Each Newly Created Channel" option is enabled in Cubase. But what if my empty template has separate effects for different groups of instruments (xBRASS VERB, xWW VERB, xSTR VERB and so on)?
 

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This is very intriguing and wonderful idea @Grizzlymv.

Believe it or not! I dumped the whole "template" idea and I decided to always start from a blank canvas. And I haven't been happier. Adding tracks as I go with composing is like painting and I focus more in creativity than the office work of creating/organizing/maintaining templates or even track presets. I mean it's all about a fast workflow right? ... I really don't see the 15 seconds of adding a track and selecting an instrument is a major issue. And I still use macros triggered by my Elgato stream deck to provide speed in creating those tracks, put them in Group and FX channels. And yeah, I don't get bothered from inserting EQ and effects manually in each project.

I really get the same speed result which is finishing a track (song) in 8 hours balanced, mixed and mastered. I honestly get that feeling that "templates" is more of a Buzz word and hype that every composer dream of to get as fast as possible with projects. The truth is, you're not getting any faster with templates. Or maybe it's just me who is bloody fast with empty canvases? :)
 

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This is very intriguing and wonderful idea @Grizzlymv.

Believe it or not! I dumped the whole "template" idea and I decided to always start from a blank canvas. And I haven't been happier. Adding tracks as I go with composing is like painting and I focus more in creativity than the office work of creating/organizing/maintaining templates or even track presets. I mean it's all about a fast workflow right? ... I really don't see the 15 seconds of adding a track and selecting an instrument is a major issue. And I still use macros triggered by my Elgato stream deck to provide speed in creating those tracks, put them in Group and FX channels. And yeah, I don't get bothered from inserting EQ and effects manually in each project.

I really get the same speed result which is finishing a track (song) in 8 hours balanced, mixed and mastered. I honestly get that feeling that "templates" is more of a Buzz word and hype that every composer dream of to get as fast as possible with projects. The truth is, you're not getting any faster with templates. Or maybe it's just me who is bloody fast with empty canvases? :)
Do you use expression maps?
 

MeloKeyz

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Do you use expression maps?
I rarely use a patch with multiple articulations. I always use a single articulation per track. But If I use a multi articulations patch, I use keyswitches very easily since I am a keyboardist in the first place. It may be hard for many composers.
 

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The system of building templates from track presets is, of course, very convenient. But what to do in a situation when an update of some library appears? Every preset has to be redone!
 
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The system of building templates from track presets is, of course, very convenient. But what to do in a situation when an update of some library appears? Every preset has to be redone!
Well, that depends on the hosts, but if something like Kontakt, yes unfortunately. However, the same issue happen with a disabled track template or if using a VEP template so it's not so different from that point. That being said, what I would usually do is to update them as I load/need a track preset. That way I get annoyed only when I try to load a track preset which need an update, rather than be forced to update all instances at once. I wish there would be a smoother update process with Kontakt, but so far, I had that issue with all template approach I used over the time. The only difference I see with track presets is that since it's quite easy and convenient to create those, you may end up with more instances than in a typical template over time, so more updates to do. ;)

Here there's still several presets that hasn't been updated yet, some for quite some time, but been able to work with that hybrid mode without issues. In the end, I have updates to do here and there, and for those I haven't updated yet, maybe it's more a question of, do I still need that preset after all? ahah.
 
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