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I've always liked how Benn is able to just say it how it is, and he sees the good in it. :thumbsup:

Ooo... I didn't find the JS Multi Tool script yet, no... that intrigues me! This is something I'm definitely missing from Cubase. The editor preferences, tracks editable, mouse modifiers I've played with, although not with CCs yet. And I did see a bit in a vid about note length, but haven't...

Ah, you worked out who I was talking about. lol. I did find some of his vids useful, some parts anyway. He presents a bit slow for me. But the constant pauses when explaining things I found pretty confusing, so I moved on.

A bit left field... Avantone Gauss 7. I've just setup a portable/laptop arrangement away from my main system (with Eve SC305). I got a pair of Avantone Gauss 7, mostly on a whim, because they were ridiculously priced, and looked more portable. I wanted to avoid cheap dome tweeters which tend to...

Update for anyone interested in how I'm finding Reaper... It really is quite flexible, but the downside is there's a lot of updates I've had to make to get things like scrolling and zooming working "normally", and the workflow for editing midi. Also, I've found a lot of the main YT video...

Julian Krause's YouTube channel may help: https://www.youtube.com/@JulianKrause He has reviewed a lot of audio interfaces. Maybe not the specific one you want, but ones from same brand/range. He measures things like preamp noise, etc.

Thanks all for the comments!! There's so many good suggestions here. Plenty for me to learn! By far my biggest confusion has been how it arms all tracks, unless you right click them and turn on automatic arming. I learnt that on Saturday. Then on Sunday I had to "re-learn" this feature the hard...

I've been a Cubase user now for over 10 years. I like it, but I'm a reasonably casual user and it's an expensive DAW for what I use it for. The last few days I've been trying out Reaper on a new laptop I have. I've been pleasantly surprised. I always saw Reaper as being hard to use, the GUI...

This is the way. 🤣 I have way too much stuff. I don't even know what I have anymore! But the one thing I do have, is I know which products I like and always use... from using them. Reviews have only ever got me so far (good or bad), unfortunately.

No probs. Just out of interest, I did a quick test before and there are some patches in Synchron Brass (e.g. Trumpet 1) where I found a usable range of about 110 to 127 (~17 total range) on CC1 for me controlling the Con Fortissimo layer fade in. Other instruments have a bit more usable range...

Not sure I fully follow what you mean, sorry... you've exhausted my knowledge on this. :shocked: Normally interpolation means to "join the dots" between two or more values. Maybe that's not the best description here when talking about functions to manage crossfading, but it seems good enough. I...

Yes, agreed, the developers often want to narrow down the range of the transitions, for the reasons you mention (avoid phasing). But I think this is where the misunderstanding comes in... the transition issue for phasing etc is different. I'm talking about a specific MIDI issue where the quicker...

I'm inclined to disagree. To my ear, on patches where there are 3 layers and a reasonably good setup of those layers, I can sometimes hear substantial differences just between a few midi values. It depends on how different sounding the layers are, obviously, but 127 values are certainly not...

Agree with @mducharme above. It will almost certainly be because the tone / dynamic range is just too different to do it any other way. Keep in mind it's not just dynamics for brass players that can change, its the tone and brassiness that the players have a lot of control over also. There's no...

Sounds great!

Dunno for sure... but I'd assume the sanctions would apply regardless.

Seems to me that using a VPN to get around sanctions on software is breaking the law. Even suggesting it here on the forum could be against the law in places where these sanctions are implemented. @High As Sky, you shouldn't use the forum here for ways to get around legal sanctions. The...

Hmmm... maybe. I'm more inclined to think you'll run into gaps that you don't expect with this library, and get frustrated. It's one of those libraries that does one thing very well, but really isn't very flexible. For example, there aren't that many legato patches. And if you then buy MA2...

Well said and well explained. I don't write much, but I learnt years ago that the libraries you have don't really matter. So long as you have a few that you like / inspire you, the rest is just noise. Also, totally get the time spent on analysing new libraries, getting anxious about what to...

I dunno why others are saying CSS doesn't sound like this. It does this to me when I am pushing the legato. I usually drop CSS when I need mixed slow/fast legato lines and go with a different library. Something like the VSL SSP, or Spitfire SSS, or Fluffy Audio VMS, even though the legatos are...

Native Access now has version 2.0.1 available. I downloaded it. Seems to fix most (all?) the issues... is much better. Thanks CineSamples!

I read through most of this thread, and watched most of your video. I found it very difficult to consume and follow. But, the thing that stood out to me is at 23:48, when you say: "Get out and write" Very well said!! And finally something we can get behind. But I just can't understand how it...

Always a touch of drama, but lots of very knowledgeable / experienced people. :thumbsup: Yes, I think it's better to read through existing threads on what people prefer. You'll get a feel very quickly for the favorite libraries. You'll get suggestions here also, I'm sure. But it's better to go...

Welcome to the money sink. :whistling: One thing to pay attention to is not just the key-switching and articulation delays in terms of your preference for a library, but also what you are trying to achieve. So for example, are you trying to write more bombastic or more orchestral. You have to...

CSS is the gift that keeps on giving. Well done on the mockup mate, CSS and the others sound great here! I've found when I try to use other string libraries, I keep coming back to CSS. I have held off getting the brass and woods for years now... but this makes me reconsider.

I guess that explains it! I just assumed it was the version I remember, sorry.

Great track. I agree the bassoons stand out too much sometimes. The part from 0:27 to me sounds different than I remember. Is probably the mixing? It's missing some of the soft relaxed-but-moving-forward tone that the live players seemed to achieve there. Although it's been a while since I...

I go to this part of the forum and listen quite often, albeit less than I used to (see reasons below). I will occasionally comment, maybe not recently as I've been busy, but it's one of my favourite things to do on VIC... sit back with some tea in hand, listen to some tracks, and if I feel I can...

Good reminder. Thanks for this. I bought NSS a while back in one of their "glitch" sales, but haven't used it yet. Not in earnest, anyway. This reminds me to pull it out and give it a proper spin. The legato is one thing I liked about NSS before I even bought it. It's a good reminder about how...

Depends on the organ I guess, but many organs have stops that are almost inaudible, like a pianissimo flute or soft strings stops, to stops that are almost deafening, like the grand reeds/trumpets under high pressure. I think sometimes when we play the sampled versions of these we don't realise...

Yep, you've identified the main issues they are (already) aware of. They told us they are working on fixes for these problems currently. It sounds like the fix will be done in the order of a week or two... not months... so fingers crossed.

This is great work! :thumbsup: And I've always liked this piece by Goldsmith. The difficulty is the way the horns are playing is different to what I've heard real players do here. The swell on the longer notes, and tending towards a brassier sound... I think they need to be tamed a bit.

Ahhh... wot? Obviously last year's Black Friday is over now... but I will say... I think you're gonna get a lot of push back on that statement about Cinebrass!

@shanerr89 I also find the same issue with something odd happening with legato on Violas and Cellos. Just play and hold a middle C, then play & release the E above a few times... you get some constant glitching sound. Happens especially if you release the E quickly.

This update is fantastic! I used to struggle with the old interface, but this update makes the library so much more usable. Congratulations on this release... and thanks! :inlove: What I like so far: The legato sounds fantastic! So far with what I've played with, better than it used to. Shorts...

Totally with you. Actually having the library, I'd say you are spot on. I haven't used these in like 2 years now. Don't buy them for the longs or legatos, it's only the shorts that are useful. They do have quite a delicate tone to them though, so even with the shorts I struggled to get them to...

L&SCS is a remarkable buy for the price. Holds it's own against the best, in my opinion. Articulations are a bit limited (expected for the price), although it does offer some unique features with the swells also. I wouldn't call it symphonic sized though -- it has a nice full sound to it...

I only been following the Pacific thread fairly casually, but I want to rant a bit here... just as a general rant. When I first got into VIs, I was astounded that the tech I'd used when growing up (MIDI) was still exactly the same, and the DAW companies (and pretty much everyone else) had done...

The oboe discussion is fascinating. I think it's hard to get right in terms of tone, especially in VSTs (my current favourite is the 2nd Oboe in Synchron Woodwinds). But when it's done right, it's fantastic. It adds a whole other timbre that you can't get otherwise. Reminds me a lot of why reed...

Yep. But reed instruments can be nasty too. Slimy reeds, rough reeds, etc. (I gave up playing because I grew to hate that wood-in-mouth feel). Spit going where it shouldn't when your lips get tired. Gurgles and weird noises because you didn't get a chance to blow out the saliva. You get the idea...

You make some great points. Only thing I'd point out is VSL do have good string libraries. There is Synchron Strings Pro, and they are great. Easy to use, one of the best players IMO, lots of articulations, works better in some situations than a few other brands you metioned.

I'll echo some of the statements above. I really do like Sonokinetic products, but I think they've failed a bit with this one for these reasons: Bugs. One of these is a deal breaker, where you can't play normal longs (no legato) without it glitching when changing notes. Wot!!?? :confused: Hard...

I find it's still a bit strange with how you control legato vs. sustain (it's again another switch you have to turn off). Plus, you don't get strange issues with the sustain pedal? It seems to lock the sustains on sometimes. I'm still learning CineSamples interface, but I've not been able to get...

Well... I guess congratulations are in order! You'll be happy. I find the structuring of the patches a little odd. But CineSamples are gonna update the whole package at some point (this coming year maybe?), so hopefully they address this in the update. The brass really does have a great sound...

I think there's a few things to take into account. 1. What are your plans going forward? No point buying random stuff just because it's cheap. 2. I personally wouldn't buy CineBrass Core by itself, I think CineBrass Pro is needed also. 3. There are other brass libs that you could argue are a...

Although... I will say Cinebrass is far far better than the NI Symphony Series stuff. I wouldn't recommend dwelling too much trying to get results with Symphony Series... it has a few good moments, but is muddy sound, hard to use, overall pretty poor. I'd be moving away from it fairly quickly...

@Laurin Lenschow Lol. You just made me do a double take! I read an early post in the Arks thread where you wrote: The key being GAS-control. I was like... huh?! There's a whole other sister forum to VI-Control for dealing with GAS... whaa?!?! :rofl:

Yes, it's not easy. I gave up trying to work it out. Someone put a link to a text summary though. And yes, having a quick way to hear each instrument would be great for this kind of drum lib, something similar to what Orchestral Tools have. A 32 min walk-though video is a hard slog.

I'm sure some people will be keen, but is not for me. Here's why... First, I already have what I need. Second, why would I buy now? The big thing I've learnt about Spitfire is it's much easier to wait a year or two, then pick up the same libraries for half the price (if I'm still interested...

Wow, I've had this issue forever! I can't believe there is a fix for it! Thanks. :inlove:

These are great, but what happened to Monster Movie 01? What I have is completely different to what Ryan demonstrates in the video. I really wanted to play around with that one, because Ryan writes a shot track with it in the video, but it's completely replaced with something different. Anyone...

@patrick76. I don't know if it's easy to explain the depth of feeling and sadness. But from just a small part of the Realms you may have heard mention of (Australia), I'll try and describe her significance... She has been our head of state for the last 70 years. Most people in our country have...

Wow! Is wonderful to hear it all played out in the various styles by a real orchestra! I think any remote derivative of this tune now, I immediately know what it is.

I think it's the same for the percussion in one or two of the presents. It sounds better mixed in the video.

Personally I'd call this epic in style, rather than symphonic. But good work, I enjoyed it. :) One thing I'd suggest for the future is looking at how you layer the instruments for the orchestration. There are sections in this piece where the instruments need more support. It ends up sounding a...

An end-note. Having notes in the middle just clutters things up.

I wonder if you've listened much to Sons of Korah? Also, not sure if you are looking for feedback? But if you are looking to improve the track, I suggest you start by looking at the structure. It is very difficult to put verse to music (Bible or otherwise) when you are trying to cover such a...

XF Sus here also. For the reasons above. In fact this was a preset a few of us requested here on VIC. It took a little while of prompting, but they added it. And I'm so glad they did... it makes the controls much more like Kontakt instruments are usually set up. I think it's by far how most...

I love the Orville theme. Really wish it was longer. Good job with the mockup, but I think it shows the limitations of the VIs, unfortunately.

Windows 10. I can't remember what driver version, and can't check currently, sorry.

@tc9000 Here's a great website for playing around with chords / creating chord progressions: https://epiconlineorchestra.com/

I suggest you check out Mattia Chiappa on YouTube. He's my favourite currently, I'm learning so much from his videos. He has a series where he takes one melody (for the entire video series!) and re-orchestrates it in any imaginable style, 10 orchestrations for each video. The great thing is he...

Totally agree. I'm only at the start of using the brass and woodwind libraries, but these articulations have already proved useful and inspiring. They make the instruments very flexible to use. I'm starting to wonder why other companies don't focus on these kind of articulations.... seems like...

Similar to others, I think it was: BBO Synchron Strings Pro Synchron FX Strings

That brass is sounding excellent!! :thumbsup:

Fantastic stuff! Far beyond my ability. I'm always curious about people's process for writing and orchestrating. Would you be willing to share a bit about the process you followed to create this? I'd be very keen to hear about this, as it's the thing I struggle most with. Also, I have two...

Awesome, great to hear... and glad to know I wasn't going crazy! Thanks Ben!! There's no rush on my part. :thumbsup: It was more the crossfades sounded so odd, I was surprised it hadn't been reported already. I've already responded to your support colleague's email before I saw your reply...

Support got back to me and said what I hear is the cross-fading between the low intensity and loud dynamics. Erm.... :shocked: Anyway, seems they missed the point, even though I explained what I was hearing and gave them an audio example. I'll post the example here, see what others think...

Here's a good tour of the basics. This is Sacred Heart Cathedral in Bendigo, Victoria, Australia. I've walked around this building a bit (it's a fantastic legacy of the Victorian goldfields!), but never heard the organ in person.

Thanks Ben. I'll send them an email tomorrow.

I guess I could, yes. But that's just a filter. I've never had to use a filter before to get around such an issue with layer cross-fading. Plus it's the strings that seem most effected by this. Ensemble strings are far less susceptible to phasing issues with multiple dynamics layers. Which...

Good work Darren, better than what I could do! Although I do think there's a few problems with it... the brass sounds very thin (to the point where I'm convinced those VSL trumpets have a lot better tone to give us if you work on them some more... having heard that recent mockup VSL posted, they...

Does anyone else have an issue with Altair when using the velocity crossfade patches? When I move CC1 up through the 80 to 105 range, I get what sounds like quite a strong filter-sweep effect. The higher frequencies dip in volume and then come back up. It's especially prevalent on strings, some...

Edit: On some organs this piston is labelled as "0".

The VSL Rieger might look a bit daunting, but I think that is a big reason why this organ in fact turns out to be so usable. The interface has a lot more controls on it for using it like an actual organ. I find it so much easier to use than other Kontakt organs I have as a result. Trust me...

Good choice. Although I would add that this idea of a Steinberg brand interface being best for Cubase is not really a thing. Steinberg just wants you to think that. Think of it as the number of things you plug into the interface - concurrent inputs and outputs. i.e. each speaker, each mic, etc...

Dunno about Steinberg audio interfaces, but any Focusrite Scarlett is going to be fine for sharing audio between your DAW and other applications. They've been doing that for over a decade now. I use my old Scarlett 2i4 Gen 1 with Cubase and other applications simultaneously, and it's fine. Never...

I have VMS, but haven't used them much (well, not yet - I haven't written anything recently that suits them). The flautando and other non-normal bowings are very good sounding, in my limited use of them so far. But I find the releases to be abrupt. That has made me use alternatives for them...

Wohoo! One less dongle AND a sale! :dancedance:

It will be something to do with the drive formatting or USB compatibility. From the VSL website SSD recommendations: SSD (M2, SATA 6 or USB3/3.1, UASP Support - HFS+, APFS or NTFS formatted) for the sample content VSL say this for a good reason. The drive, drive formatting, drive...

Hi Robert, what format are the drives? I had issues with external samsung T5/T7 drives with Syncron Player also, making the player unusable with those drives. It turned out to be the formatting of the drives. The Samsungs come formatted as exFAT I believe, which causes problems for the VSL...

Thanks, that feature looks quite useful. I'll go see if there's a video on it to find out more, when I have time. I'm not looking to buy new string libraries though, I have more than enough! :cautious:

Yes, I use the ensemble patch sometimes for sketching ideas also. It works well for that, for certain things anyway. What I'm referring to really is when I need to translate it into something more than just the sketch. Or something that has melody lines that are anything with moderate or faster...

Yes, good idea to go back to the source to get more ideas. That's the thing though, I've been using CSS for years. I don't write a huge amount and I'm far from the most experienced, but it's not like I'm new to it. I think over time I've just grown less patient with it and realised it's quite...

Yes, I use Spitfire a lot also for writing. The performance legatos especially. And if I'm just sketching something out, some of the Albions also, yes.

Which do you tend to write with more? I should clarify I'm not looking for suggestions on libs to buy (yeah I know, a shocking thing to say here on VI-C! And now no one will respond to the thread... d'oh!). I'm trying to find out what approaches and libraries people use for string writing. On...

I often start writing a piece by playing around with different string libraries. I will try ideas, various articulations, move between the libraries, or move between different instruments within the libraries. Sometimes I'll copy lines between them. All this to get inspired and to get ideas down...

Yes, that's the problem I believe. Normally it would discount the specific item, e.g. Altair, when you are logged in and looking at the Altair page. Currently it's not doing that for some people.

I don't see the bundle price either. I'm logged in, and have bought the BBO bundle previously. I think you are right, it's because we have SSP. It's not showing the bundle price maybe because it can't account for the bundle being completed by other non-BBO products? @Ben - any fix for this?

Actually one thing I forgot to mention is that doing what the OP mentioned I think is great for learning how to write underscore. You can do it in real time when watching something. Not that I'm an expert (far from it), but I sometimes can work out even the exact libraries being used by the...

Thanks. I forget all the new library names SF have replaced them with.

There's already some good suggestions here, but I'll add my 2c. I sometimes do what you are looking for. I actually quite enjoy just playing along to "make my own" soundtrack, or to try and blend my own parts into movie/streaming series sountracks. The thing to look for is any library with...

I did a quick comparison a few years back... this is LSCS, SCS, then both.

Yes. L&S is the "little developer that could"; anything they release punches above its weight. So this sounds like exciting news! :dancedance:

My cat, Jack, likes to help with my work. A lot. I'm sure you all know the drill with cats, it's their thing. I work from home currently, have several monitors and a laptop all positioned around me spread out over a huge table with heaps of room, with at least two other keyboards (the typing...

Yes, I was going to say this is the easiest way to create the celeste. I kind of is cheating though, in the sense that if you are trying to recreate it, using the original instrument is missing the point a bit I guess. But for a quicker result, or an example of what to emulate, this is it...

Innevitable. You're on VI-Control. :rofl:

I have tried to find that thread but can't, sorry. I did find other threads, and this track on Soundcloud which uses the OT Orchestal String Runs library... This is by one of the guys on the forum, but I can't find his forum handle currently. Can't find anything with a full Berlin Strings...

SSS is far from perfect, agreed, including the legato. I love the library, but there are some quirks. I do think that it's underestimated sometimes as a good solid workhorse library though.

It's an interesting exercise, yes. I'd characterise the strings in your mockup as being very heavy handed. Like they are dragging the bow very heavily over the strings, and blurring the notes together so all you hear is the slur. If memory serves me right, I think the best mockup of the strings...