jesussaddle
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Guy is very entertaining. And he knows more than a hill of beans about composing too.Guy Michelmore is musically illiterate now?
Guy is very entertaining. And he knows more than a hill of beans about composing too.Guy Michelmore is musically illiterate now?
Depends on what style.Yeah the guitars did not sound good, in all honesty I’ve never heard a good electric guitar sample library, all of them sound pretty terrible. But I’m also very biased as guitar is pretty much my life and it’s what I have the most knowledge on, I could get a much better guitar sound in about 3 seconds tops
Yup. I'm actually about 1/3 of the way through a playthrough of Arkham City right now (this time I am going through new game plus without any armor upgrades). Such a great series, and the scores are all great.
Shorts and Dive Bombs aren't completely bad (not a guitar player) -- I could see them working as a layer with string chugs (big slow impacts, not fast rhythmic stuff)... but the longs are... well they don't seem particularly useful. No vibrato, no pitch bend control, it all feels somewhat lifeless.Yeah the guitars did not sound good, in all honesty I’ve never heard a good electric guitar sample library, all of them sound pretty terrible. But I’m also very biased as guitar is pretty much my life and it’s what I have the most knowledge on, I could get a much better guitar sound in about 3 seconds tops
Depends on what style.
Heavier 7 Strings by the guys behind the Kirchhoff EQ is pretty fun to play around with.
But yes, I think you're right that guitar libraries are not perfect right now.
Shorts and Dive Bombs aren't completely bad (not a guitar player) -- I could see them working as a layer with string chugs (big slow impacts, not fast rhythmic stuff)... but the longs are... well they don't seem particularly useful. No vibrato, no pitch bend control, it all feels somewhat lifeless.
For how good the drums sound these guitars just ain't it.
With the retirement of Iceni the expectation was delivering a more modern replacement, Spitfire's customers have been asking for years is for a rude FFF library so it's not out of character for people to be upset when expectation didn't match reality. I think it's great for what it is we just have to come to accept it's not what some people originally presumed it would be and embrace what its strengths are.I don't think people have got the wrong expectation when this is the sales pitch
It's not that it sounds bad, but more that it doesn't go to Eleven like promised, it probably sits at an 8 or 9
Yeah, I agree, Heavier 7 Strings is certainly not perfect - but it satisfies for me for certain purposes. I guess due to the nature of vibrato on electric guitar, the personal style of one player, if captured in a library, will not cover many others. Three Body Tech did manage to record and feed one players style into their program - and they avoided using pitch bend for vibrato which for electric guitar is a wise choice. Anyway, IMO with the Kronos x/y joystick thing the emotion of the vibrato seems to be playable. Its good for arpeggiated notes as well (the sustains ring out like electric guitar strings do, fading over a very long time. Now for chunks and rhythms and low end, there's an area which I haven't found a single instrument to handle.The lead playing sounds good but it starts to sound fake around 1:16 in the lower register, I think that’s where guitar libraries have the most problems, chugs just sound so robotic and fake on sampled guitars, and as a metal oriented player it sticks out like a sore thumb
Exactimundo.About the RAM usage, I'm guessing that it loads both the chamber version and the symphonic version of each sample so that it can crossfade between them. And it loads multiple mic positions for the corresponding slider, and multiple dynamic layers... All of that adds up.
I think their design choice to make everything a slider does make things easier in a sense, but it comes with the sacrifice of RAM on the other side.
Yeah, I agree, its not perfect. Anyway, IMO with the Kronos x/y joystick thing the emotion of the vibrato seems to be playable. Its good for arpeggiated notes as well (the sustains ring out like electric guitar strings do, fading over a very long time. Now for chunks and rhythms and low end, there's an area which I haven't found a single instrument to handle.
From what I hear of Colossus I'm not at all liking the guitar, but I do think the library can have its use. They mention at one point that some may feel like skipping Albion One and getting Colossus instead. I wonder if that means they'd let me trade in my Albion One for Colossus. No?
I was thinking exactly this. Its like it goes to 8 but offers a synth bed underneath and saturation on top. Problem is that you can get sounds if you make your players Play at eleven, that you can't get with this. But on the good side, it does offer a workflow for contrasts that might be useful for some of us. Maybe I should buy some bits of Ark 1 before I comment though, because that's kind of a defacto standard for trailer-ish stuff anyway.I don't think people have got the wrong expectation when this is the sales pitch
It's not that it sounds bad, but more that it doesn't go to Eleven like promised, it probably sits at an 8 or 9
Yes, and that's what, $900 just for the brass?JXL Brass absolutely murders that
As was I.Haven't listened or watched any demos or walkthrough yet,
but a bit disappointed to hear that it wasn't recorded at AIR.
Yes, and that's what, $900 just for the brass?
umThis is not the quality we've come to expect from SA