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VSL Synchron Elite Strings?

jamwerks said:
I had kind of an "awakening" moment earlier listening to the excellent video posted above by Nico Schuele. I saw that he was using two plugs (Brainworx Refinement, & Oeksound Soothe2) to process the different Synchron Strings libraries. I'd never heard any Strings from Synchron sound so good !

I remember match eqing SSP to CSS a while back, and was cutting like 6db around 3k, but was never 100% happy with my results. Those plugs seems to dynamically tame resonances and "harshness" (2-5k), and seem to make them sound like I always wanted. The Synchron stage seems to really bring-out those frequencies, with strings in any case.

I'll be using Zodiac, SyST I, SSP, SyST FX & Elite lots and now want those plugs also!
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@ALittleNightMusic ;)
 
Ben said:
As soon as you move the velocity crossfades a little bit it will get movement and timbre change. But you can't do the opposite with samples that have movement/timbre change built in.
Also consider using the Espressivo articulation, it is designed to have timbre change, and if the volume build up is too much for you, it can easily be tamed by driving the Expression slider in counter to the build up.
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You will also, most likely, get phasing with such a small string section, if you rely on crossfading for timbre-change. But maybe its not too bad with Elite.
 
....gotta give credit here to @Guy Bacos who's demo 'Race against Fate' is excellent imv. What sounds like an exhaustive expose of the samples (thank God it's PRS day), also happens to be a really interesting piece with enough ideas to expand it into a serious work if he wanted to.
 
Saxer said:
I tried two mixes... Decca wide room preset and a custom closer mix with closer/mid/surround mics plus a Lexicon reverb... a bit more chamber like for my taste. It's just a short snippet... I used the Babylonwave-Articulation switches from Synchron Strings Pro which are similar but still a bit different, especially different names. So I'm not sure if the legatos I used are the best choice... first try.
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I love the decca wide mix. It's usually my starting preset in Synchron Strings Pro.

I go through a few Elite Strings mix presets in here, if interested:

 
I'm waiting now what Sonokinetic Strings will have to offer. But I'm also wondering how well Elite Strings will work as a bigger ensemble with divisi? I mean duplicate and transpose for example Violins 1 and treat them as one, bigger ensemble but with divisi control (I know it's not the same as bigger ensemble recorded).
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It's clear for me that those are not chamber strings, they sound much bigger due to stage, yet they are still detailed and crisp (more vibrato examples please!). And amount of articulations is pretty solid, so they clearly have everything needed to become "workhorse" library.
 
I have a question for @Ben regarding the size of the library.
This library has many articulations, but it occupies roughly half the space of Synchron Strings Pro (60.9 GB vs 122.7 GB for the standard versions).
How can this be explained?
 
WhiteNoiz said:
It seems to take processing quite well... Experimented a bit on it. Interesting. Attached an edit of the demo, edited closer to my liking. Rather pleasing I'd say.
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Sounds kinda boxy (bad room placement) and overhyped in the HF to me. The original too. I don't think it sounds like this out of the box.
 
Akarin said:
I love the decca wide mix. It's usually my starting preset in Synchron Strings Pro.

I go through a few Elite Strings mix presets in here, if interested:

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Cellos sound really good in the default preset you play with first, also "classic room mix" (sounds pretty similar as you also say). But when you select the "lush decca" preset wow.... it totally ruins everything. Sounds so fake and processed, reverb is terrible. I wonder what you get in the "standard" edition of the library.

Thanks for doing this. Shorts really seem to be the force, highlights of the library. Legato... here I agree that it sounds almost scripted, like a waste, if they actually recorded legato intervals here. It really adds nothing good.
 
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Knomes said:
I have a question for @Ben regarding the size of the library.
This library has many articulations, but it occupies roughly half the space of Synchron Strings Pro (60.9 GB vs 122.7 GB for the standard versions).
How can this be explained?
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I have been wondering about this as well. Especially since the total amount of samples is in the same order of magnitude as SySPro. 270K for standard SES and 322K for standard SySPro. Even less of a difference for the full library.

I don't expect Ben to spill the trade secrets here. Just expressing my curiosity.
 
Knomes said:
I have a question for @Ben regarding the size of the library.
This library has many articulations, but it occupies roughly half the space of Synchron Strings Pro (60.9 GB vs 122.7 GB for the standard versions).
How can this be explained?
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Frederick said:
I have been wondering about this as well. Especially since the total amount of samples is in the same order of magnitude as SySPro. 270K for standard SES and 322K for standard SySPro. Even less of a difference for the full library.

I don't expect Ben to spill the trade secrets here. Just expressing my curiosity.
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I don't know things like this "out of the box", but I've double checked with my colleagues.
For the Synchron Elite Strings we could further improve sample content optimizations, especially regarding sample trimming, without loosing quality.
Also, the inclusion of a few Synchron Strings I articulations further pushed the content size of the Synchron Strings Pro.
Additionally there are more mono mic positions included in the Elite Strings (Main Center, Solo 1, Solo 2, Ribbon), compared to the Synchron Strings Pro.
 
So, I assume there are some here that already had the time to download, install and take a look at the library.
I feel very honored I could contribute some of the "Signature" presets, and I would like to hear what you think about these and if you would like to see more of these for future libraries (and maybe also for already released ones).
 
With MIR Pro 3D just around the corner I would have liked to see something dry. But this still looks and sounds very nice.
I do hope VSL haven't completely abandoned the silent stage concept, because I own all the Roompacks, and would really like to hear them with some new products.
 
Ben said:
like to see more of these for future libraries (and maybe also for already released ones
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More of your Sig presets would be welcomed for SSPro and I'm sure the eagerly anticipated SBPro and SWPro also would benefit from them.

The Sig presets can take "traditional" VSL libraries into the realm of creative soundscapes. That means I spend less money on the esoteric single purpose libraries that are flooding the market right now.

And I know this is a big ask but a solid nuts/bolts walkthru of the Synchron player is needed. One big demo walkthru of combining articulations, then assigning custom mix channels and controllers, digging into effects, etc.

Most newcomers to Synchron player easily adopt its Dimension slots workflow. But there are so many capabilities and possibilities lying just beneath the Dimension menu surface. Learning to utilize all those capabilities adds great value to the Synchron user's experience and opens almost endless creative possibilities.
 
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