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Cinematic Studio Brass?

Simon Ravn said:
My first test with CSB:

https://www.simonravn.com/media/CSB-test-SR.mp3

I think it can definitely by big and loud, no doubt! And it sounds so organic and full of air and space. I love it.
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Incredible demo, very musical! :) what other libraries did you use in this, if you don't mind me asking?
 
Consona said:
For the love of god, can someone post some fast legato line demo, please? :faint:

Here's the midi:
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Okay, you've brow-beaten me into it, hehe. This isn't a precise copy of the notes from your midi, but I took the same basic lines and tempo, and used CSB trumpets, then horns, then trumpets.

No effects applied, just the mix mics from CSB. I do have a little passive EQ on my master buss which I left inline to give it some top, and then Pro-L2 to bring up the level. For these lines I played the same part on both Trumpet Solo and Trumpet a2 patches, and then on the Horn Solo and Horn a4 patches. In order to get something that I felt most closely approximated the sound of the brass lines from the original soundtrack, I varied articulations between the solo and group patches, using some Sustain Legato, some Marcato Legato, and some Marcato Legato w/Accents. I played everything at higher velocities in order to get the Fast Legato transitions, of course.

 
WindcryMusic said:
Okay, you've brow-beaten me into it, hehe. This isn't a precise copy of the notes from your midi, but I took the same basic lines and tempo, and used CSB trumpets, then horns, then trumpets.

No effects applied, just the mix mics from CSB. I do have a little passive EQ on my master buss which I left inline to give it some top, and then Pro-L2 to bring up the level. For these lines I played the same part on both Trumpet Solo and Trumpet a2 patches, and then on the Horn Solo and Horn a4 patches. In order to get something that I felt most closely approximated the sound of the brass lines from the original soundtrack, I varied articulations between the solo and group patches, using some Sustain Legato, some Marcato Legato, and some Marcato Legato w/Accents. I played everything at higher velocities in order to get the Fast Legato transitions, of course.

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Do trumpets or horns ever play that fast?
 
WindcryMusic said:
Okay, you've brow-beaten me into it, hehe. This isn't a precise copy of the notes from your midi, but I took the same basic lines and tempo, and used CSB trumpets, then horns, then trumpets.

No effects applied, just the mix mics from CSB. I do have a little passive EQ on my master buss which I left inline to give it some top, and then Pro-L2 to bring up the level. For these lines I played the same part on both Trumpet Solo and Trumpet a2 patches, and then on the Horn Solo and Horn a4 patches. In order to get something that I felt most closely approximated the sound of the brass lines from the original soundtrack, I varied articulations between the solo and group patches, using some Sustain Legato, some Marcato Legato, and some Marcato Legato w/Accents. I played everything at higher velocities in order to get the Fast Legato transitions, of course.

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Thank you!

So basically all it needs is that auto borrow feature from 90s Retro Trumpets, since the legato itself can handle that (which is, just wow). With the horns' legato you can easily tell it's samples because the transitions repeat themselves very obviously, but the trumpets example sounds exceptionally good for a sample-based performance of that line even without any tool that changes the transitions played. Can't stop listening to that, sooo good, I'm so surprised by those trumpets. :inlove: :grin:
@Alex W Would it be hard to implement something like Ultra TKT script (that's basically what auto borrowing is, I believe) into the library? Since the Kontakt editing option is not available.

And you were absolutely right WindcryMusic, CSB legato is better than CineBrass legato, even way better I'd say*. Now I want to hear that performed by 90s Retro Trumpets fast legato patch. :grin: Does anybody even own that library?

Thanks again for the demo!


*edit: Wait, I'm testing it and the results are actually surprisingly good. Stay tuned...
 
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From what I tried to mock-up the Gondor theme, CSB legato from the @NoamL 's demo felt way more smooth on those slower lines than CineBrass.
 
Steve Hicks said:
with apologies if I have been beaten to it already - a couple of "standards" for ref

[AUDIOPLUS=https://vi-control.net/community/attachments/binary-mp3.17154/][/AUDIOPLUS]

[AUDIOPLUS=https://vi-control.net/community/attachments/imperial-march-mp3.17155/][/AUDIOPLUS]
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These put a real smile on my face and I’m only listening on my crappy phone speaker. Nice one.
 
Brian Nowak said:
If you really mean the second example is the Ark 1 9 horns, I have to ask:

How in the heck did you make it sound so terrible?
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Very simple :) I dragged in a an Apple Loop for brass, and replaced the default instrument with the default patch for the Ark Horns, and deleted all the MIDI ccs. I then did the same for all the others.
 
I have to say, people are already getting very nice results with CSB. I think it is replacing Hollywood Brass in my "Quick Compose" VE Pro template.
 
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